We have just recently signed up with Microsoft to sell Navision, I’m currently looking for training companies we can use to gain the relevant qualifications does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks
Natalie
Can you tell your current country / city ? [:)]
Hi Natalie
Assuming “Fleet” is the one on the M3 then this is the UK!
Microsoft should have put you in touch with Interquad who are the official UK training arm (I think). All of the exams are on prometric or VUE. Pertnersource has e-learning courses to download depending upon your partner support plan. Manuals can also be downloaded. Boot camps are also run out of http://www.trainingcamp.co.uk/home which fast track you through the software, or elements of it, and I believe they are backed by Microsoft.
Can you define “gain the relevant qualifications” if you mean to do the minimum required to get MBS certification, then Steven has probably put you on the right path. If you mean you really want to learn Navision at the level that you can deliver high quality solutions to your clients, then the Dynamics Freelancers can help you. Just let us know which is your case.
THe Microsoft website should have a lot of training centers for you and your staff to get certified.
The issue though is if they want to get “certified” or 'Qualified" The topic says Certified, but the text of the post says qualified, and personally I see these as two different issues.
[:D] yes David, it’s just as you wrote - I’ve seen some NSCs out there, which are “Certified”, but far not “Qualified”…
Hi David, I had a look at the site. Is it www.dynamicsfreelancer.com? There isn’t that much information there. Do you know who the organizer is?
Scott
[:D] sure do. No point in just talking, we we can actually do something … right?
Hi David, maybe we should move this to another topic “NAV Expert Alliance”. I believe a few regular contributors to this forum have the ability, dedication, and are well-qualified to form alliance and become a NAV “powerhouse”. A true “powerhouse” is a very good selling point. It sometimes makes me wonder why MBS partners and NSCs are able to run their consulting practice with much higher profits while individual consultants get paid by hours. I think software technologies/solutions are sometimes over-rated and their pricing of course is as artificially inflated as your customer’s ignorance can allow you, rather based on the true cost of developing and delivering the technologies. Often some MBS partners have little responsbility in capping project costs or interest in putting themselves in the customer’s shoes because all they’re concerned about is billable hours. It translates into $$$ every time customers changes their requirements, which is good for [the MBS partner’s] business because a lot of customers do not project-manage well. How many MBS partners truly think they are in a highly competitive business? I came from an apparel manufacturing background and value proposition is not an easy sell compared to other service sectors like consulting.
Being able to resell or license something you’ve already done years of R&D in would only make you and your solutions even better. I think all NAV techies deserve to be compensated for their knowledge in a more lucative way. However we should also learn to package and present ourselves better. One thing I commonly found our local MBS partners is that their Web sites often lack quality contents and case studies. Not all MBS partners have blue-chip customers in their portfolios but I think there is a much better way to sell technologies and services than telling people you have a proven SW process or methodology which many customers are not even familiar with (come on, when you sell a technical solution shouldn’t you and your customers expect that it is proven and will be successful if they use it?). I certainly want to contribute more to the NAV community. I would be very interested in writing about the technical solutions I developed for my own industry. Do you collaborate w/ other NAV guys in writing short articles?
But I think it takes more than just a few like-minded and enthusastic individuals to run the show like the biggest NSCs around. I have yet to find a NAV authority to join like Photoshop with their National Association of Photoshop Professionals (NAPP). What do you think we are missing? Maybe we can draw a parallel to the open source business model (the technologies are open and out there in the most raw form) but it’s putting them together and ability to implement them as real business solutions is what makes the practice profitable - so customers can reap the benefits of cost savings and operational effciencies. Being “community-driven” may be a good thing or bad thing.
What’s your take on this?
Scott
Hi David,
Maybe we should move this to another topic “NAV Expert Alliance”. I believe a few regular contributors to this forum have the technical competency, dedication, and are well-qualified to form alliance and become a NAV “powerhouse”. A true “powerhouse” is a very good selling point. It sometimes makes me wonder why MBS partners and NSCs are able to run their consulting practice with much higher profits while individual consultants get paid by hours. I think software technologies/solutions are sometimes over-rated and their pricing of course is as artificially inflated as your customer’s ignorance can allow you, rather based on the true cost of developing and delivering the technologies. Often some MBS partners have little responsbility in capping project costs or interest in putting themselves in the customer’s shoes because all they’re concerned about is billable hours. It translates into $$$ every time customers changes their requirements, which is good for [the MBS partner’s] business because a lot of customers do not project-manage well. How many MBS partners truly think they are in a highly competitive business? I came from an apparel manufacturing background and value proposition is not an easy sell compared to other service sectors like consulting.
Being able to resell or license something you’ve already done years of R&D in would only make you and your solutions even better. I think all NAV techies deserve to be compensated for their knowledge in a more lucative way. However we should also learn to package and present ourselves better. One thing I commonly found our local MBS partners is that their Web sites often lack quality contents and case studies. Not all MBS partners have blue-chip customers in their portfolios but I think there is a much better way to sell technologies and services than telling people you have a proven SW process or methodology which many customers are not even familiar with (come on, when you sell a technical solution shouldn’t you and your customers expect that it is proven and will be successful if they use it?). I certainly want to contribute more to the NAV community. I would be very interested in writing about the technical solutions I developed for my own industry. Do you collaborate w/ other NAV guys in writing short articles?
But I think it takes more than just a few like-minded and enthusastic individuals to run the show like the biggest NSCs around. I have yet to find a NAV authority to join like Photoshop with their National Association of Photoshop Professionals (NAPP). What do you think we are missing? Maybe we can draw a parallel to the open source business model (the technologies are open and out there in the most raw form) but it’s putting them together and ability to implement them as real business solutions is what makes the practice profitable - so customers can reap the benefits of cost savings and operational effciencies. Being “community-driven” may be a good thing or bad thing.
What’s your take on this?
Scott
Well, in order to get qualified, you have to be certified, I don’t think they’re mutually exclusive. [;)]
Like I said, if someone forms and organization like NAPP, but for MS Dynamics, I’d be glad to sign up and contribute. But the key point would be keeping it as a non-profit organization, instead of just transforming it into another solution center out only for the money.
In principle, every experts would love to work together in a group environment where we can share work, collaborate on big projects, and make a comfortable living. But the devil is always in the details. [6]
Well, IMHO David just wanted to emphasize that “Certified” not always means “Qualified”, too [:)]
Just like having a college degree doesn’t necessary mean you’re smart. But the world revolves around certification papers, and that’s how it works.
Didn’t we have a discussion on this in another thread?
Hi all,
In reference to AdamRoue’s post, I just wanted to let you know that we have changed our name from Training Camp to Firebrand Training. More information of these can be found here - http://www.firebrandtraining.co.uk/history
I know this post is old and not really sure if Natalie is still looking for training, but we do offer accelerated Dynamics certification courses. More information of these can be found at http://www.firebrandtraining.co.uk/courses/microsoft/technology and http://www.ukdynamicspdc.com/