If you are thinking about getting into the world of Navision (Dynamics NAV) and want to be the best Developer or Consultant out there, and you want to make good money in a great job, then its easy. Just learn the following:
ABCBADADCBABDBADBABACCDBDBCADCBADBCABDBCBDABADBCBDABCBDAAB
That’s it, thats all you will ever need to know to become a true Navision professional. So start learning.
20=A, pretty sure it was B.
Where is your data coming from, it is reliable, is it NAV2009? [:D]
Yeah all that learning of manuals or working at experience is for suckers, this is the much better way!! You can get a job as senior right away and make customers think you are not a fresher!!
Hey - what happened to you all? Sudden spring sunstroke? [H] Or so spring affects Moderators? [;)] Or only MVPs ?
I believe it is a release of frustration from many recent posts where posters have been using the forum as a training environment, or asking how they become good consultants etc. This is hightened by when you give advice it is seemingly not appreciated, you get no feedback, you are told you are wrong etc. So David was clearly trying to shortcut the need to do basic training on the forum and allow the posters to become seasoned NAV experts and allow them to begint o contribute back to the community by answering the majority of questions being posed.
Although the weather has been unseasonally hot in the south of the UK, so it could well be sunstroke for me!
This a a private joke, between moderators and MVP´s, right?
Does the code mean something or is it to suggest becoming a developer bypassing the functional part?
Sorry for the nagging…
Hi Nelson
There was nothing private about it and it was not between moderators, MVP’s or anyone in particular.
David has just written down the multiple choice answers to the development/finance/whatever exam. It was a joke about everyone trying to shortcut the time necessary to be able to work on NAV, just get a certificate and hey presto you are the best in the world, why bother with actually putting in time and effort.
So it is not code, just a crib sheet (which I presume is made up for the humour of the post!).
Nelson,
At time when this thread started, there was a flood of postings trying to use forum as tutorial, requests for exam answers, where to get braindumps and so. We never support such methods, but there is a certain group of people, for whom it seems the normal way.
They even don’t understand, that first employer will fire them in a week, if even not earlier, but if they go to poor enduser, it takes him more time to understand, what kind of “superspecialist” he has hired. And afterwards enduser must spend much time & money to clean up all the mess and damage done.
P.S. “code” means exam question answers simply learned by heart: Q1 = answer A, Q2 = answer C etc etc. Miserably there are “specialists”, who got ther certificates in such a way…
added:
While I wrote my answer, Adam already managed first [:D] Seemingly topic theme worries all of us…
Thanks for clearing that up.And also to AdamRoue
I am Newcomer and I am doing a yearlong, Microsoft sanctioned certification-training programme. And I can understand the nerves of those people, that like me are trying to get certified. And sometimes things arent that well, coordinated, for the deadlines you have to get certified do not allow you time to get to know the application. I have to have all my certifications passed 3 months after the beginning of the internship, what as you may imagine is making me cut some corners, and not giving me the time to study like I would like to.
You are all right that if you cut corners you will pay afterwards. It is a bit like in School/University, the ones who cheat, are cheating themselves…
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH,
we have to learn all that [:S] ???
dont u have some magic pill or so?
cheers
Hmmmmmmmmmmm David , Denster it seems somebody has sent some love filled PM to you guys asking dumps or something like that [:D]
Wish I could learn the code and become a good consultant. I am still a non certified consultant [:’(]
Sandeep,
Me too! I’ve never taken any of the certifications! But in fact I was offered to teach some of the preparation classes for the Navision certifications.
My last training (as a participant) was in the original webshop for Navision back in 1999.
Thanks Erik,
Good to know that people like me are around [:D].
I do not undermine the importance of certification but the first two consultants I met having finance certification didn’t even know the basics of finance which led me to go without certification. Even the MS requirement of having a finance certified resource enabling us to sell NAV license was of no avail, I made one of my employee to do it.
I have been trainer to the finance/accounts people having the highest degree of Finance/accounts in India and some of them have done the certifications but I might not be able to do so.I have never been trained on any software other than a 15 days (1 hour daily) basic training on VB (with MS Access db).
Hi Sandeep,
In general certifications are an important way to say that you understand something. Bus as long as you can just go buy the correct answers and study them, then they are worth nothing.
The part that is really important is that people need to stop thinking that they are can become a better consultant or developer just because they have a certification, if they are not willing to spend the time it requires to study.
Some people like you are able to do self-studies. But most people aren’t even if they think so (or should I say that they bosses think so?). So training is important. Very important if you want to become successful.
But training isn’t all, in fact it’s not worth much without experience. If you’re not able to use the knowledge you have in the right way, then everything really doesn’t matter.
Hi Erik,
I always appreciate your kind words and explanations. I understand the frustration of some moderators and I also understand that sometimes it is very boring to repeat over and over the same “lecture” again. But, is this not the purpose of a user group? Everyone had a beginning and was happy to find some information that was enlightening him/her. I am not supporting “laziness” but I am definitely a supporter of helping and assisting, if I have the knowledge to do so. This is just an opinion.
Fritz
Fritz,
Everybody has been a beginner - noone has just born stuffed with knowledge [;)]
That for exist different ways of learning, including forums in general and DUG for Dynamics in particular. Newbies are welcome here, as well as experts. BTW, even experts sometimes ask questions here, not only give answers to less experienced colleagues, because its impossible to know EVERYTHING.
This thread is more about what you called ‘lazyness’ in your post. There are about a dozen on so ‘standart’ beginner’s questions here, appearing over and over again, despite answer could be found by simple one keyword forum search.
I don’t want to say that EVERY beginner posts question without searching before, many people have even come here through Google or some other search engine and then registered as members. But, if somebody repeatedly ignores forum rules – and these are similar in every such tehnical forum – we advice him to read them or do search instead of him and point to already existing threads…
Second, especially in this Cert. & Train. forum, there are many questions about how to get certificated actually not having ANY knowledge. This includes requests for braindumps of exams and so on. Such ‘certified specialists’ have devalued all the certification institute, because employers no more believe in it - they know, too, that certificates can be ‘bought’. Besides, such ‘specialists’, when hired and need to start working, come here to ask OTHERS to solve their problems.
There was a member, who had numerous certifications stated in his signature, still asking questions of level ‘how to turn on my PC’. Even then others answered him, until somebody lost patience and finally adviced him to attend some entry-level courses first, wondering how he doesn’t know elementary things if he has passed at least 25-30 exams, according to his certificates list… He got angry and in very insulting form called names everybody who still had tried to help him out…
So, the problem lies not in simplicity of question or even ‘repeating over and over the same “lecture” again’, but in ATTITUDE. If someone doesn’t respect the netiquette at all, I keep the rights to behave similary - but I rarely, if at all, use these rights, instead trying to point to ‘normal’ ways of communication.