Hi people.
Currently I’m working for a partner, but if I like to get a legal development licens for helping my fathers company and other people with development, how can i get such a licens, can i just contact Microsoft for that or what do I have to do.
I heard there is 3 kinds of licens, what are the differents - and the price?
Thank you.
You can buy solution developer granule but it’s expensive. You can get your price from your partner.
You can’t get a personal developer license, it’s issued to partners. You could arrange some kind of deal with your current partner to use license and work has a freelancer.
When I worked has a freelancer I had deals with partners to overcome that problem. I gave to partners fees, I could make consulting services directly to customers without partner intervention. Since those customer to Microsoft belonged to partners.
Thank for your answer.
Do you have any idea for the price of the developer granule?
What are you paying for you partner for borrowing the licence?
Download price list from partnersource for your country and you will get price list.
I didn’t pay for borrowing. Indirectly I was a partner employee with autonomy to work independently. Normally they got all license fees and I get consulting services, but that was discussed customer by customer.
As a “Registered partner” with Microsoft you can get a developer license by requesting it at the ROC.
This means that you do not have to meet certification issues! But it also means that you cannot re-sell NAV end licenses but are only allowed to customize and develop which, if I understand you correctly, should also be enough [:)]
The steps are these (in Denmark at least):
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Hi Soren,
This is not the case in my experience. Yes the SPA agreements are need but also you need to meet the certification requirement. This is having two fully certified people and also SQL certification. I would be surprised and HUGHLY concerned if development licenses were handed out to un-certified partners.
Hi David.
I think that meeting the certification demands used to be the case until recently. Microsoft is apparently beginning to reckongize the fact that there are a lot of good people, developers, out here, who is customizing solutions and developing add-ons.
Getting a license file was a big issue for me when starting up as a freelancer in december 2008, but it all went smooth and I now have my .flf file.
Of course it must be renewed once a year. And regarding the certification requirements there are two ways now to become certified. The first one is, as you say, to have the two fullyt cerftified people. The other acces to gain the “Certified Partner” status is to have an add-on solution certified by Microsoft.
I know this is all new and that we have been wanting this for a long time (to get our hands on our own license file), and I was kickstarted by a PowerPoint document that Erik E. once posted a link to here on the site. The document was describing partner roles and licensing, and they mentioned a “Dynamics NAV Service”-partner, who develops add-ons and do customization work, but cannot sell NAV licenses. The document also stated that the legal framework was “to be determined”, so I guess that back then, they hadn’t determined if they wanted to “give the license files away” 
Never the less… Here I am… with a developer license issued to my one-person company.[:)]
Oh… sorry about the name. I wrote “David”. I meant “Dave”. [A]
Hi Soren,
I’m glad to hear that the freelancer problem is being addressed but my concern is that “Someone off the street” can get a development license in this manner and be let loose on live systems. I know this is the extreme case, but if this is the case, what is then to stop customers applying and getting a development license without any development experence - and we know what happens then [:S]
Hi Dave
You are quite right. This way it would not be impossible for someone wanting a license file enough, to actually get one. And we don’t want that!
My guess is that it will not be e general problem, since it is some determined steps you have to go through to get it.
I do not know if Microsoft in this process has been evaluating my website and that sort of stuff to estimate if I was a serious freelancer.
Still… I wouldn’t say that the process was easy. Finding the correct documents on PartnerSource ( the SPA and addendum) was not a walk in the park [:)]
Yes - If you enter PartnerSource you need to leave a trail of breadcrumbs to find your way out and alway tell someone where your going [:D]
Exactly [:D]
The ISV route has been available for a couple of years now, its nothing new. One thing that may have changed, (I have not looked at the current version) is that an ISV is (was) not permitted to work on an end user database EXCEPT in maintenance of the Add-On or ISV solution for which they have their developers license. Of course the simple work around was for the client to purchase the ISV solution, which then allowed them to support that database.
Also that information was fairly well hidden for exactly the reason that it was not supposed to be just for anyone on the street. I am not sure if you making this information publicly available is in the best interests of the community. I am also not sure if its allowed to make public information that you found on Partner Source.
Definitely it helps people like us when more and more people are out there doing this, because it means more customers buying more disasters from more unqualified “developers” leaving us with lots more clean up projects. But is this really what we want?
Hi David.
You are right about the ISV partner type. But this is a (by Microsoft) new partner type, that is distinguished from the ISV. According to the document I refer to the ISV still needs certifications.
And to be clear there is nothing from this that comes from PartnerSource, except from perhaps the document, that Erik posted here in the forum some time back, and for which I am greatful.
Actually I think this is great news and do not see the danger of “people off the street” getting a developers license, since it is still not easy.
And I think that a lot of good people are out there which do not have the opportunity to throw themselves into freelancing without using a license file from a former employer (partner company) which is of course wrong.
I think this is very relevant and important for the community. The freelancing market has to stop being so competitive and open up and embrace the fact that we (freelancers) need to have the freedom to supplement partners using our own license. Remember that the Service Partner (the new partner type) cannot own the customer license either, and not resell licenses, so this would also sort of supervise the freelancing supplemental partner from turning the project into a disaster.
Regarding disaster projects, I have actually seen more of them where certain partners have been involved.
I believe that the new open approach and possibility of a developer license should at least give the freelancers the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.
I cannot see how this will become a major threat, except of course more competition in the freelance market, but that is another talk [:)]
Hi Søren!
Can I ask you a question. When you signed up for the SPA, do you only sign the “Solution Provider Agreement Document”, and the a “NAV-addendum for the SPA”. What about the SPA profile?
Where do you note that you only want to get license to customize/develop solution but not resell lincensing software?
Hi ! Of course you can… and sorry for the late reply.
Somewhere in the addendum there is a check box, where you state that you do not want to resell licenses.
At least there was when I signed the Dynamics NAV documents a year ago. It is possible that they have changed since then.
Kind regards
Søren
Hi Søren,
How much did you paid for steps 2, 3, 4. They are common for us.
I have a prof. developer & Confg-Installation certification