Is it possible for a end user to get a FULL developer license ? If yes, would I have to go through all the tests again considering that I got a valid Developer license (that’s from my previous NSC, right now I work full time for a end user) and I’ve been certified Solution Developer since 1997 … BTW is there any other end users out here who have got their VERY OWN Solution Developer License ? Cheers, Tarek ###### email@example.com
I don’t think you can have a developers license, unless you are actually working for an NSC. I have my solution developers license. There may be something you can buy which will allow you to develop on the system, but you will incur more cost.
Hi, There are two sorts of developer license: Application Builder and Solution Developer. We have Application Builder and it gives us access to write code in tables, forms, reports and codeunits. Basically like a solution developer licens beside from that it doesn’t give access to writeprotected tables(like 32 and 17) and codeunits that writes to these tables(like 80 & 90). I think that Solution developer gives access to that to. Navision in Sweden didn’t have any demands on us as customer when purchasing this granule. Actually we think that this is a problem because Navision sell us the tools needed to develop inside Navision but don’t give us access to courses that would give us the knowledge to develope… The price for application builder is approx 7000$ and for solution developer 25000$. Best regards Daniel
Daniel is correct in his statements. He left out mention of the Designer granules (Table, Form, & Report) which are the most basic of the Navision C/AL development tools. The Report Designer, in particular, allows limited access to C/AL code within report objects. To access other C/AL code and Codeunits, you need at least the Application Builder granule. In North America, Liberty Grove Software is offering on-demand courses for end user developers (as well as for NSCs). Dave Studebaker firstname.lastname@example.org Liberty Grove Software A Navision Services Partner
Hej Daniel, If you would give 25000$ to Navision sweden would they give you the Navision Solution Developer License ??? Cheers, Tarek ###### email@example.com
Hi, I saw few clients who bought Solution Developer licence. It is not a problem. You have to pay for Table, Form, Report Designers, Application Builder and Solution Developer. In total about $35K. Valentin Gvozdev Andel Jewelry Inc.
Valentin is right. You will have to pay for all those granules. Beside that, purchasing them is like purchasing any other granule. They are in the pricelist from Navision and you purchase them from your nsc just as usual. Daniel
Remember that Navision will indeed provide you the Solution Developer license…for a nominal fee, but if you want training from them then you’re out of luck. The only way that you’ll get development training is through your NSC or through a service partner like Liberty Grove. From my experience, very few…if any…NSC’s actually will train the customer for Solution Development capabilities. It’s so much easier to let the customer come to you to get something programmed as opposed to letting the customer do it themselves. Plus from an ongoing support of the customer’s database, there are opportunities for the database to change through the customer’s own development efforts, which could cause extended support issues. Either way, I’d be very careful with doing you’re own development unless you’ve got a locktight commitment from you’re NSC to support the mods you make
Tarek, One of our accounts recently acquired a full developers license. The difference (from App. Builder) seems to be a permission to write to the protected tables. The secondary restriction is the ability to create new objects, i.e. you are limited to number of tables/forms etc. that you have previously bought. We yet to find out if it poses a risk of modifications in posting routines (i.e. if you dont own Jobs/Resources - would it let you change CU 80 or 90) If that is the case, your client may have to buy modules that they have no use for. Alternative is simple - just disable the code that you dont use (tax ledger references, for example), which makes it run much faster. Last but not least - NDK license (according to some well-connected sources) can be only cut to an NSC. If NDK is the only thing you are trying to buy the developers license, clear this up. Rules be different in your region, so before mailing your life savings out, make sure you know what are you getting for your money. Alex
Hi Tarek, With the global certification process introduced you can actually get a personal license. I would also like to know if this license is independent of the NSC we are working for, that means can we have 2 licenses. Regards Best regards, Prashanth NCFC, NCMC, NCSD firstname.lastname@example.org
Originally posted by prashycool: With the global certification process introduced you can actually get a personal license. I would also like to know if this license is independent of the NSC we are working for, that means can we have 2 licenses.
True. The certification is now global. But only NSC employees needs certification. False. You cannot get a personal license, unless you work for a certified NSC. Tarek asks about END USERS, not NSC Employees. As for the NSC licenses, please notice that ALL NSC EMPLOYEES most have their OWN PERSONAL Navision license with your own name. If you are using a developer license with someone elses name, then you’re violating Navision’s licensing rules, and they may take it away from you and your company. So to your question. Yes you can have two licenses if you have two employees who both work with Navision. In fact you MUST HAVE two, or as many as you have Navision employees. Only certified employees can use them and they must use their own license at all times. But this is for NSC employees only. All End Users can buy their own license if they want to spend the money. Navision does not require any certification if you would like to pay them the money for the license. Best regards, Erik P. Ernst, webmaster
Erik is right So you must only use your own licence when developing in Navision. You should not allow anybody else to use your licence. All of your developers much have their own development licences. The only way to get a developers licence is to pass a Navision exam. So everybody who is developing in Navision will be trained up to the required standard and produce good readable code with out bugs. Don’t you think!!!NOT! Paul Baxter
A couple of things… a) Differences between solution developer (end-user) license and the typical NSC license are mostly that the end-user solution developer license never expires (for that version of the program, so if you’re planning to use it with newer versions of the program you won’t be able) and that they don’t need any kind of certification to be adquired. End-user solution developer license is given to the company (so is not a personal license but the company’s one) who buys navision (the first company i was working with navision bought the solutions developer’s license for allowing me creating a few mods for the company). b)
All of your developers much have their own development licences. The only way to get a developers licence is to pass a Navision exam. So everybody who is developing in Navision will be trained up to the required standard and produce good readable code with out bugs.
Well… as on standard navision we can find a lot of things that are not following the supposed standard and a lot of bugs shall we think that Navision itself is having non-certified people making the program…??? grin Regards, Alfonso Pertierra (Spain)email@example.com