Has anybody cleared Navision Manufacturing Certification and would like to help.
Cleared the prequalif. People say that Manuf. is the most difficult of all.
Hello I became certified in manufacturing on 20th October 2000, and in the UK as well! As I understand it David Grant, the then manufacturing product specialist at Navision UK, left shortly after this to enter into the channel. The interim period was filled by Jesper Rasmussen (late 2000 to early 2002??) and since then Clyde Bennett was appointed Navision manufacturing product specialist (So I was told on the What’s New in 3.60 day in May this year). Anyway if you need anything post away and I will try my best altrenatively contact me direct on my email
thanks Steven, how should i prepare myself. how can i get the sample papers. can i have ur email id. thanks
Hi Ajay Preparation depends upon your level of experience. The old rule used to be that you had to have manufacturing experience to go on the course, but I sat it with two accountants who had never been on a shop floor in there lives and did not know what a BOM was (they were doing it so the NSC could get certification)!! There were never any past papers issued because David Grant always used the same exam (which caused issues as some questions referred to pre 2.6 manufacturing, which was quite funny!). If you have a manufacturing background and some exposure to ANY manufacturing software then on the old test you will get 30-50% without knowing the software because you already understand the concepts. If you have no manufacturing experience I suggest you read some basic concept books on manufacturing, I have some at home but cannot remember titles off the top of my head. Also, if your NSC is manufacturing certified see if you can get a site visit, see how they work, see how they use Navision etc. My email is sweaver@xonitek.co.uk Feel free to drop me any further questions
Thanks a lot Steven, that is enough for me i have basic knowledge of manufacturing because we have our own manufacturing industry and i have also worked in a manufacturing co. I was looking on APICS.org as well for CPIM certification. regards
Hi Ajay I took a slightly different route after moving into the wonderful world of software and that was to take the IOM (Institute of Operations Management) Diploma in Production and Inventory Control (2 year part-time course). IOM took over from the BPICS mantle sometime in the seventies (?). I do not know the difference in curriculum, but I would guess the APICS one is more internationally recognised (isn’t everything American?!), although the study centres will be more accessible in the UK for the IOM. That said I know the IOM differs because it is classroom lead, and you cannot just sit the exam, whereas, I believe, you can sit the exams for CPIM in a relatively short period of time. However all of that said if yo are at that sort of level you would walk the exam I sat with 2/3 days training that put the theory into the software. However that was two years ago and hey may have changed it!! before I forget, and if you are interested www.iomnet.org.uk (4000 odd diploma holders compared to the 66000 CPIM)
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Hi Ajay Preparation depends upon your level of experience. The old rule used to be that you had to have manufacturing experience to go on the course, but I sat it with two accountants who had never been on a shop floor in there lives and did not know what a BOM was (they were doing it so the NSC could get certification)!! There were never any past papers issued because David Grant always used the same exam (which caused issues as some questions referred to pre 2.6 manufacturing, which was quite funny!). If you have a manufacturing background and some exposure to ANY manufacturing software then on the old test you will get 30-50% without knowing the software because you already understand the concepts. If you have no manufacturing experience I suggest you read some basic concept books on manufacturing, I have some at home but cannot remember titles off the top of my head. Also, if your NSC is manufacturing certified see if you can get a site visit, see how they work, see how they use Navision etc. My email is sweaver@xonitek.co.uk Feel free to drop me any further questions
Sounds strange to me. Is the UK following the same route as anywhere else ? Here in Belgium you have a prequalif exam. You have to pass that one to be allowed in the official manufacturing course. Reading a general manufacturing book is good enough for that one. But the official certification exam is not so easy I have heared. We have one here who is certified in … everything and he says that there is only one exam which is kind of difficult : manuf. this guy has like 20 years of manuf experience.
Hi Gunther I do not know if there is an “international” certification. I believe the UK manufacturing test I sat was issued centrally (at least that is my memory), but my prequalifying was done with a telephone interview - what is your experience, what do you understand by the phantom BOM concept, etc. However as I stated earlier this did not prevent others being on the course with no manufacturing experience - which did hamper the speed of the course. I would guess that the prequalifying exam is either developed by your NTR or is an innovation of the last two years. As for the difficulty of the exam, assuming it was centrally issued, I thought it was relatively simple, and one of the attendees with no manufacturing experience did “scrape” a pass whilst the other failed. Draw whatever conclusions you like from that!
As an addition Ajay never mentions pre-qualifying, so perhaps it does not exist in the UK.
Dear Steven there is no pre-qualify test for manufacturing You should only be NCR for this test but vue site have these certification for manufacturing AU 02-009 Manufacturing Prequalification AU 02-010 Manufacturing
Hi Ajay So now “anyone” can attend the manufacturing training in the UK? Reading the pre-requisites of the course it says “The delegate must also have a substantial manufacturing experience obtained from either a formalised education in Manufacturing or from working with a manufacturing software solution in a manufacturing environment for an extensive period of time.” As well as having obtained the NCR exam. vue site? can you enlighten me!
Hi Ajay, Just having the knowledge of software is not enough for the manufacturing course. As the Manufacturing Module in Navision is all doing jobs in the Background Only. So there must be Knowledge about Inventory Panning, Supply chain, and Fundamentals of the various terminology. THis is main reason why many people have a bitter experience in Manufacturing. Just with Working knowledge is not enough, the CPIM material for the APICS should help you to get certified in Manufacturing.
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Dear Steven there is no pre-qualify test for manufacturing You should only be NCR for this test but vue site have these certification for manufacturing AU 02-009 Manufacturing Prequalification AU 02-010 Manufacturing
In Belgium : AU 02-009 Manufacturing Prequalification You have to pass that one, to be allowed in the official Manufacturing training. Having manufacturing experience and/or reading the Introduction to MAterials Management book is good enough. AU 02-010 Manufacturing You have to pass that one to get certified.
Hi Gunther In the UK we can sit AU 02-009 Manufacturing Prequalification at a testing centre with nothing to do with Navision UK, then if you are an NCR you can sit the AU 02-010 Manufacturing exam and if you pass you are accredited. This route costs money to sit the exams and involves no “formal” training. The other route in the UK is to sit the manufacturing training undertaken by Navision UK. This is a four/five day course with the AU 02-010 Manufacturing exam (?)(not certain if it is the same) at the end of the course and you have to pass the exam to be manufacturing certified. I would guess, and it is only a guess, that the AU 02-010 Manufacturing exam is global, and difficult because no formal training is required to sit it, it is a “fast track” to avoid the training. The exam at the end of the training maybe slightly easier due to it being given at the end of five days training. Does your NTR offer manufacturing training with an exam at the end? If so is it the AU 02-010 Manufacturing exam?
BE02-10 is the exam ID… and covers the Manuf. Manual from A-Z…
I think we’ll just have to conclude that Belgium and the UK are different in this [:D]
And in Holland it is even more difficult. The prequalification exam (to be allowed in the manuf. course) is a written exam, where they ask you to do “simple” manual MRP calculations., solve some business case, … The final 010 exam in Holland is the same as in Belgium.
You will be telling me next that they do not give away NCR’s with every 24 pack of beer purchased in Belgium as tehy do in the UK [:D]
In the end, it’s only a piece of paper telling you that you somewhat understand the basics. But after you start working with it, it will take an average person +/- 5 minutes to find out that manufacturing is no really fit-for-use.